Legislature(2017 - 2018)HOUSE FINANCE 519

11/21/2017 10:30 AM House LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

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10:52:55 AM Start
04:59:20 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
EXECUTIVE SESSION
+ Other Committee Business TELECONFERENCED
- Records Policy
- Legal Priority Policy
- Establish Sexual Harassment Policy Working Grp
- Legislative Legal Budget Discussion
                      ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                
                        LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                                   
                         NOVEMBER 21, 2017                                                                                    
                             10:53 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
      MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
      Representative Sam Kito, Chair                                                                                          
      Senator Bert Stedman, Vice Chair                                                                                        
      Representative Matt Claman                                                                                              
      Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                             
      Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                         
      Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                         
      Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                
      Representative Harriet Drummond, Majority Alternate                                                                     
      Representative David Eastman, Minority Alternate                                                                        
      Senator John Coghill                                                                                                    
      Senator Anna MacKinnon                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
      MEMBERS PRESENT ON TELECONFERENCE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
      Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                            
      Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                   
      Senator Pete Kelly                                                                                                      
      Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
      MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
      Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
      OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
      Representatives LeDoux, Spohnholz, and Saddler; Senator                                                                 
      Wilson                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
      AGENDA                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
      APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                      
      EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                       
      OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
      SPEAKER REGISTER                                                                                                        
     10:52:55 AM                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
 I. CHAIR SAM KITO called the Legislative Council meeting to                                                                
     order at  10:53 a.m. in Room  519 (House Finance) of the                                                                 
     State Capitol. Present  at the call  were Representatives                                                                
     Claman,  Edgmon,  Guttenberg,  Millett,  Ortiz,  Drummond                                                                
     (alternate),  Eastman  (alternate), and  Kito;   Senators                                                                
     Coghill,  MacKinnon, Costello (alternate),  and  Stedman.                                                                
     Present  on  teleconference were  Representative Stutes;                                                                 
     Senators Giessel, Kelly, and Micciche. Senator Hoffman was                                                               
     absent.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     NOTE FOR THE RECORD: there were technical difficulties with                                                                
     the teleconference system. The roll call reflects members                                                                  
     present once the difficulties were resolved.                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     CHAIR KITO removed two items from the agenda prior to the                                                                
     motion  to  approve: The  Records Policy  and  the Legal                                                                 
     Priority  Policy    an  ad  hoc working  group  would be                                                                 
     established for both with the Chair requesting any members                                                               
     interested in serving on either subcommittee to contact his                                                              
     office.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     10:55:34 AM                                                                                                            
     Legislative  Council took  a  brief  at-ease to  resolve                                                                 
     teleconference issues.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     11:00:48 AM                                                                                                            
     CHAIR KITO called Legislative Council back to order. Roll                                                                
     was  called  again at  the  Chair's request.  Chair Kito                                                                 
     repeated the removal of two agenda items as noted above:                                                                 
     The Records Policy and the Legal Priority Policy. Ad hoc                                                                 
     working  groups will  look  at  both  policies and  make                                                                 
     recommendations to the full Council.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     11:02:34 AM                                                                                                            
     VICE CHAIR STEDMAN moved that Legislative Council approve                                                                
     the agenda as amended.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     YEAS:  Claman, Edgmon, Guttenberg, Millett, Ortiz, Stutes,                                                               
            Coghill, Giessel, Kelly, MacKinnon, Micciche,                                                                     
            Costello, Stedman, Kito                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     NAYS: None                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
      The motion passed 14-0.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
      11:03:28 AM                                                                                                           
      Legislative Council took a  brief at-ease to discuss the                                                                
      format for the rest of the meeting.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
      11:14:15 AM                                                                                                           
      CHAIR KITO called Legislative Council back to order.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
III. EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
      VICE CHAIR STEDMAN moved that Legislative Council go into                                                               
      executive session to consider matters made confidential by                                                              
      the Legislative Council Records Policy under Uniform Rule                                                               
      22(b)(2)  and 22(b)(3);  as  always, Legislators not  on                                                                
      Council were invited to remain in the room. The following                                                               
      staff were asked to stay in the room: Skiff Lobaugh, Human                                                              
      Resource Manager and Doug Gardner, Legal Services Director.                                                             
                                                                                                                              
      Legislative Council went into executive session.                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
      4:30:11 PM                                                                                                            
      Legislative Council came out of executive session.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
      A  roll  call  was  taken.  Present  at  the  call  were                                                                
      Representatives Claman, Edgmon, Guttenberg, Millett, Ortiz,                                                             
      Drummond  (alternate),  Eastman (alternate),  and  Kito;                                                                
      Senators  Coghill, MacKinnon, Costello  (alternate), and                                                                
      Stedman. Present on teleconference were Senators Giessel,                                                               
      Kelly,  and Micciche. Representative Stutes  and Senator                                                                
      Hoffman was absent.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
      4:32:26 PM                                                                                                            
      VICE CHAIR  STEDMAN moved that Legislative Council allow                                                                
      access to  the Legislative Affairs Agency Human Resource                                                                
      Manager  Skiff  Lobaugh to  review  video  recordings as                                                                
      necessary  to conduct  an  internal investigation. Skiff                                                                
      Lobaugh is authorized during the course of performing his                                                               
      duties as HR Manager to allow this video to be viewed in                                                                
      his presence as appropriate and consistent with the best                                                                
      human  resource  practices.  This  authorization applies                                                                
      through the next Legislative Council meeting.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
      A roll call vote was taken after a brief at-ease.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
      YEAS:  Claman,   Edgmon,   Guttenberg,  Millett,  Ortiz,                                                                
             Drummond, Coghill, Giessel, MacKinnon, Micciche,                                                                 
             Costello, Stedman, Kito                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
     NAYS: None                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     The motion passed 14-0.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     4:34:14 PM                                                                                                             
     VICE CHAIR STEDMAN moved that Legislative Council approve                                                                
     Senator  Wilson's request for  access to  materials made                                                                 
     confidential by the Legislative Council Records Policy, and                                                              
     that he may have counsel present if desired.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     YEAS:  Claman,   Edgmon,   Guttenberg,  Millett,  Ortiz,                                                                 
            Drummond, Coghill, Giessel, Kelly, MacKinnon,                                                                     
            Micciche, Costello, Stedman, Kito                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     NAYS: None                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     The motion passed 14-0.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     4:35:38 PM                                                                                                             
     CHAIR KITO called a brief at-ease.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     4:48:11 PM                                                                                                             
     CHAIR KITO  called Legislative Council back to order and                                                                 
     asked Senator Stedman to describe the next item and make                                                                 
     the associated motion.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     VICE CHAIR STEDMAN said that the concept is to move some                                                                 
     funds in current Fiscal Year 18 from LB&A, House Operating                                                               
     Budget, and House and Senate Finance to Legal and Research                                                               
     Services and Administrative Services.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     VICE CHAIR STEDMAN moved that Legislative Council approve                                                                
     the  transfer of funds as  follows: from the  Legislative                                                                
     Budget &  Audit Committee, $145,000; from House Operating                                                                
     Budget, $189,000; from Senate Finance Committee, $168,000;                                                               
     and from House Finance Committee, $98,000; for a total of                                                                
     $600,000, to be transferred to Legal and Research Services                                                               
     and  Administrative Services in  a  two-thirds, one-third                                                                
     split: $400,000 to Legal and Research Services and $200,000                                                              
     to Administrative Services.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     4:49:45 PM                                                                                                             
     There was a brief at-ease in the middle of the motion to                                                                 
     ensure correct language.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     4:50:29 PM                                                                                                             
     CHAIR KITO called the Legislative Council back to order.                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
      SENATOR   MICCICHE  asked   for   confirmation  of   his                                                                
      understanding  that  the   legislative budget   was  not                                                                
      increasing by  one  penny, that  this was  simply a  re-                                                                
      distribution of funds.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
      CHAIR KITO said that his understanding was that the funds                                                               
      were anticipated lapse, which meant it will not be a net                                                                
      increase, it will be a transfer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
      A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
      YEAS:  Claman,   Edgmon,   Guttenberg,  Millett,  Ortiz,                                                                
             Drummond, Coghill, Giessel, Kelly, MacKinnon,                                                                    
             Micciche, Costello, Stedman, Kito                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
      NAYS: None                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
      The motion passed 14-0.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
      CHAIR KITO said that he was in the process of establishing                                                              
      a  Sexual Harassment and Other Harassment Policy working                                                                
      group. He said he proposed that this working group be made                                                              
      up  of Legislative Council members because if travel was                                                                
      necessary, that  travel  would be  provided  through the                                                                
      Chair's office. He said he anticipated and hoped that there                                                             
      would be a draft policy recommendation as members come into                                                             
      session in January. As a subcommittee, three members will                                                               
      be appointed from each body. The Committee will be staffed                                                              
      by Human Resource Manager Skiff Lobaugh and Chair Kito's                                                                
      Legislative Council staff Crystal Koeneman for support. In                                                              
      response to a question by Representative Guttenberg, Chair                                                              
      Kito  noted he  did  not need  a  motion to  establish a                                                                
      Legislative Council subcommittee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
      SPEAKER EDGMON said he wanted it  on the record that the                                                                
      intent is to move forward in an expeditious manner.                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
      4:54:06 PM                                                                                                            
      Legislative Council  took  a  brief  at-ease at  Senator                                                                
      MacKinnon's request.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
      4:54:28 PM                                                                                                            
      CHAIR KITO noted that there were other members that joined                                                              
      the  Legislative Council  meeting  during  the executive                                                                
      session and they were: Representatives LeDoux, Spohnholz,                                                               
      and Saddler. Representative Stutes also participated in the                                                             
      executive session as her schedule allowed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     In response to a question by Representative Claman, Chair                                                                
     Kito noted  that there would be  three members from each                                                                 
     body, for a total of six members on the Sexual Harassment                                                                
     and Other Harassment subcommittee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     CHAIR KITO noted for the record and for members that there                                                               
     was some confusion created by information passed around for                                                              
     various agenda items; as such, in order for clarification,                                                               
     for  communication, for the  ability for  the  public to                                                                 
     understand what Council is doing, all the information that                                                               
     comes  before Legislative Council members needs  to come                                                                 
     through the Chair's office. His office will make sure the                                                                
     information is  available on BASIS and  make sure  it is                                                                 
     appropriately  distributed  to  members.  If   there  is                                                                 
     information they receive such that  there wasn't time to                                                                 
     post to BASIS, the Chair will have to pull those items from                                                              
     the agenda. In  order to follow appropriate protocols and                                                                
     notifications, all agenda item information must go through                                                               
     the Chair's office.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     SENATOR MICCICHE requested that, in working with the Human                                                               
     Resource Manager Skiff Lobaugh, the proper terminology was                                                               
     used with  regard to the subcommittee, in order that the                                                                 
     public would hear the correct terms. He also noted that he                                                               
     had received at least two texts from members of the press                                                                
     and  bloggers to please remind every member  that we are                                                                 
     dealing with  a personnel issue and that  the subject of                                                                 
     executive session is to be kept confidential.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     CHAIR KITO  agreed and reminded everyone that all issues                                                                 
     discussed in executive session remain in executive session.                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     SENATOR  MACKINNON stated that  the matters  Council has                                                                 
     discussed, that they've  spent hours inside of  executive                                                                
     session, are  important to the  legislative body and are                                                                 
     taken very seriously by all  who participated since 10:30                                                                
     this  morning. She thanked the  Chair and his  staff for                                                                 
     allowing Council a short break to get something to eat and                                                               
     come back to the table. The issues that are before Council                                                               
     are extremely serious and the matter that Council voted on                                                               
     was very  serious. She wanted to put  on the record that                                                                 
     while she understands freedom of speech and the request fro                                                              
     the  press to  understand everything that was  happening,                                                                
     there are laws in place for reasons, to protect individuals                                                              
     and she believed that everyone agreed with that sentiment.                                                               
     She  thanked everyone for their professionalism regarding                                                                
     the conversations they've had.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
      CHAIR KITO thanked all the members for working with his                                                                 
      staff to find at time when they could all meet, and for a                                                               
      full committee representation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
      There being no further business before the committee,                                                                   
      Legislative Council adjourned at 5:00 p.m.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
      4:59:20 PM                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
171121 Agenda REVISED.pdf JLEC 11/21/2017 10:30:00 AM